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Jun 8, 2011 18:15:39 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 8, 2011 18:15:39 GMT
Hi all, Long time since i came down to race (few years i think) was wanting to start up again as now working more local and finishing at reasonable times. so i guess what i am wanting to know is what has changed i see all this lipo stuff etc, what do you now need to race and be kind of competitive, i have still have a team tc4 3 sets 4200 nimh which are now cycling radio gear etc but what motors and tires we all using now? regards Scott
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Jun 8, 2011 18:58:07 GMT
Post by neil on Jun 8, 2011 18:58:07 GMT
Hi mate.
Were all using brushless motors now. With speedo's that advance the timing as you accelerate. Basically making a 10.5 (equivalent to 19t) faster than most brushed mod motors.
Look at GM brushless systems and tekin also seem to be popular. But personally i use GM. But the choice is yours!
Lipo's i'm running a 5800mah. Brushless are more efficient but alot better with diecent cells
Tyres, Sorex JB28's for indoor carpet will give you plenty of grip!
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Jun 8, 2011 20:10:02 GMT
Post by Big Paul on Jun 8, 2011 20:10:02 GMT
HI Scott Is this Mr Wilson the electrical if it is get to the next meeting and catch up.Be fore you wast money like you did last time.Regards Paul Rhodes.If not Mr Wilson same apply's.
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Jun 8, 2011 20:31:46 GMT
Post by Browny on Jun 8, 2011 20:31:46 GMT
Tekin with a LRP X12 13.5 and any lipo battery around 5000mah. Alternately you could run with a GM motor/speedo combo, which seem to be a bit punchier on the bottom end.
I have ran a Tekin and a GM Prostock 10.5 Motor, and that does feel smooth. But some people say Tekin and GM dont go well together.
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Jun 8, 2011 21:25:54 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 8, 2011 21:25:54 GMT
Yeah hi Paul it is, and i know , so the next meeting is the 17th then? will i be able to at least run with the 10 year olds with my old setup? to get to grips with what i need to get.
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Jun 8, 2011 22:27:36 GMT
Post by Browny on Jun 8, 2011 22:27:36 GMT
If your a decentish driver id recommend asking race control to put you in heat two.
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Jun 8, 2011 22:40:05 GMT
Post by neil on Jun 8, 2011 22:40:05 GMT
Well rob beniston is currently testing the waters to see if he wants to get back into it with some old IB42's and a 7 turn motor. He's off the pace but competitive in the B final.
Its worth it as long as you get that brushless is no maintenance and you can treat lipo's pretty bad on the cycle front before they mess up!.
Just saying if id come back with brushed and nimh i'd probably have jacked it in because i wasnt fast enough lol
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Jun 8, 2011 23:06:31 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 8, 2011 23:06:31 GMT
hm well browny i was a....not so good driver anyway average around c/b heats before but i am now hoping now i have turned 30 i might have less haste will produce more exit speed instead of entry speed then broken wish bone. fancy it again though and now i only live with in walking distance from the school
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Jun 8, 2011 23:13:51 GMT
Post by swallow on Jun 8, 2011 23:13:51 GMT
no-one escapes the RC bug, so welcome back and we are all more than willing to help you out dude. And then argue with eachother about what gear to recommend to you. GM FTW all ur Tekin suckers!
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Jun 9, 2011 5:27:40 GMT
Post by Captain on Jun 9, 2011 5:27:40 GMT
Tekin: smarter, smaller, faster..... ;D
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Jun 9, 2011 10:04:39 GMT
Post by Graham D on Jun 9, 2011 10:04:39 GMT
Hey Scott, You would be ok for a while using your brushed gear whilst you get back into it, you wouldn't be able to compete with the top guys but would be able to do ok, I raced for a while with mine when i came back. When you decide to get the new stuff theres quite a lot of choice depending on how much you want to spend, personally I would get a lipo and charger first and then move onto the speedo and brushless motor. Hopefully will you next meeting and I'm sure they will be plenty of people offering advice.
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Jun 9, 2011 17:27:02 GMT
Post by swallow on Jun 9, 2011 17:27:02 GMT
GM 75 is the future. Tekin is........same size, dumber and made of PLASTIC! Cheap tat.
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Jun 9, 2011 18:05:59 GMT
Post by Captain on Jun 9, 2011 18:05:59 GMT
At least Tekin's go on the start line............you never have to bump start a Tekin to get it going......
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Jun 9, 2011 18:07:18 GMT
Post by neil on Jun 9, 2011 18:07:18 GMT
yeah you just get raped on the straight instead
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Jun 9, 2011 18:21:32 GMT
Post by swallow on Jun 9, 2011 18:21:32 GMT
You can afford to stall when its that fast
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Jun 9, 2011 18:22:30 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 9, 2011 18:22:30 GMT
geees never ment to start a full blown war, i have a super stock motor in is that allowed still ?
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Jun 9, 2011 18:34:42 GMT
Post by swallow on Jun 9, 2011 18:34:42 GMT
yea with brushed run whatever you want. Its just healthy banter
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Jun 9, 2011 20:09:10 GMT
Post by Big Paul on Jun 9, 2011 20:09:10 GMT
YES Scott you'll get use to this lot ps you got pm
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Jun 9, 2011 23:10:41 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 9, 2011 23:10:41 GMT
ok, so managed to cycle all my old cells which to say they have been stood in the garage for over 2 years still charge and discharge quite well. so should be ok to run this setup next week (i think) wish list goes something like this * GM 97168 - gm genius 120 esc * GM 97290 - gm 10.5t pro stock motor * GM 99011 - gm lipo 60c 6200 Batts x 2 * charger no clue * tyres - Sorex JB28's £480 w/o charger, ouch, best get saving then
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Jun 9, 2011 23:20:34 GMT
Post by Browny on Jun 9, 2011 23:20:34 GMT
I believe Neil is running the Genius 90 with a 10.5t.
Although 13.5t is plenty enough for Doncaster, there really isnt much difference in it at Ardent Raceway either. Chris's 13.5 setup can keep ahead of my 10.5, for the entire straight, but i run out of track for the car to get its second wind.
I suppose it depends what your after, but I do believe your going to be suprised at how far the technology has progressed. I started racing last year, my only experience with brushless motors before that was with RC Heli's and a Novak 8.5T with a SPEC speedo, in a drift car. Soon moving it over to a MI4LP with a 10.5T to start racing with.
Running this 24hr competition at Ardent has made me realise just how good technology is now. I tend to be looking way too far up the straight too soon lol with the brushed gear.
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Jun 11, 2011 11:47:25 GMT
Post by neiln on Jun 11, 2011 11:47:25 GMT
just wondering how many people run advance timing esc's at donny? Everyone in the A? & probly most in the B?
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Jun 11, 2011 13:29:12 GMT
Post by Captain on Jun 11, 2011 13:29:12 GMT
Pretty much so neil, with advanced timming is like running a 13.5 that performs like a 10.5 and more. Tekin's the future neil, live the dream! ;D
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Jun 11, 2011 14:40:07 GMT
Post by Big Paul on Jun 11, 2011 14:40:07 GMT
Neil if you're on a budget you can not beat the hobbywing xtreme 60 amp esc +the program box, the two only £75 ish from giant cod posted.The gm or the tekin's cost nearly double this + you need to cart a laptop to program them.
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Jun 11, 2011 17:10:18 GMT
Post by Graham D on Jun 11, 2011 17:10:18 GMT
If you take the GM stuff out of the equation you can certainly knock quite few bucks off that price.
You can pick esc (gm, tekin) for a about £100 off ebay etc, if you want new buy from rcmart or somewhere like that.
I believe the speed passion do a really competitive speedo for £80 from rcmart
Lipos are available from there as well Intellect 6200 60C for about £55 Tires buy from the club at £25 when BigDave goes on his pickup round from MBmodels ;D
Motors are also available from both ebay and rcmart at very reasonable prices.
Chargers I personally like my LRP Pulsar its mint, also bought from across the seas.
All in all you would save a fair amount of cash either way.
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Jun 11, 2011 17:36:38 GMT
Post by scottw on Jun 11, 2011 17:36:38 GMT
had a tryout today at a local school on carpet to test the car, car was fine... driver not so good... but batts lost there punch after 2 mins but kept going for a further 4 mins at a slower pace, so think i might go shopping online for some bits and anything i cant get i am going to leeds wenesday so can call at MB. looking at this on ebay item No. 160598841503 will have a look on that site for batts etc,
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